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I think your "kit" number must be low, wherever you got it... but I know that is not the point, I am just teasing... I am intrigued to see the movie. I think the 13 hours, Blackhawk Down (and their predecessors and contemporaries, like Lone Survivor, American Sniper) are also trying to show the responsibility America has bc of our technological superiority and our ability to take lives... but that may be a read through the lens of your great-grandfather, Hop. But overall, I totally agree with the way our movies, even when they are nuanced, are also glorifying (even when accurate) in their presentation of the American Military. I also think that there is another piece that is intriguing - what if it were a less "noble" minded nation that had this superiority - could it be one of the thing that we are glorifying is the way that America might could defeat any other military, but doesn't?

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Haha, yeah I thought it was low too ;) This site looked sufficiently manly and legit to trust https://www.tierthreetactical.com/special-forces-loadout-gear-selection-and-total-costs/ but could be off, of course.

I do think responsibility should be the message. More advanced tech in war isn't unethical in itself, and America, in the grand scheme of history, isn't a very conquering nation. It does have a reputation as being meddling in the international community from my experience. Many of these movies are times when US soldiers "weren't supposed to be there," and therefore, couldn't get back up. Other times, like the Iraq war, it's on shaky footing from the start. But yes, I do think that's an implied message to some level in these films, and a good one.

American Sniper is a good example of the difficulty. Do I think Chris Kyle's story should be told? Yes. At the same time, it's a choice from the start to focus on the tortured conscience of the soldier when they're forced to shoot a child, when the radicalized child seems like they're in an unimaginably worse position than the sniper.

I think America is in a much, much, much better position ethically than Russia, China, North Korea, etc., etc. And they obviously all have their propaganda too. But I do think American exceptionalism comes through in war movies and, while America is advanced in many ways, it's a dangerous thing for Christians. If I was a secular American, I actually wouldn't have a problem with the movies, haha. Good thoughts Dad, thanks for commenting.

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